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i havent read anything, i probably have no direction in whatever happened... zelina is legit good as a manager, valet, whatever you want. she was damn good on the mic, 3rd behind heyman and mvp, no? this was a definite waste cut.
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Zelina kept using that online network thing which name I forget that the WWE recently banned their performers from using.

Stuff likely happened behind the scenes, likely involving arguments for unionization.

Zelina posts on Twitter, via her official WWE account, that she believes they should be able to unionize

13 minutes later the WWE announces her release.

Fans predictably react like Vince saw a tweet and fired her on the spot, but she likely knew she was out the door at that time and took advantage of her access while she still had it.
 

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I mean, WWE is well within their right to do what they did and to set the stupid Twitch policy. Zelina isn't a victim, but I love that she took a public stance and followed through. I don't think she was "wronged", and I think everyone knew what was at play.

I'm well within my rights to not like their policy or their actions as well.
 

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am i wrong in expecting the worst for aleister now? i still havent read up on anything, but he was already floundering. cant get better from here, right?
 

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I mean, WWE is well within their right to do what they did and to set the stupid Twitch policy. Zelina isn't a victim, but I love that she took a public stance and followed through. I don't think she was "wronged", and I think everyone knew what was at play.

I'm well within my rights to not like their policy or their actions as well.
I never said anything about your rights
 

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am i wrong in expecting the worst for aleister now? i still havent read up on anything, but he was already floundering. cant get better from here, right?
Nia drops Lana and End through a table at the same time!
 

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unrelated to your comment
Just a pet peeve of mine when people start pretending like I'm telling them they don't have a right to their opinion just because I have the audacity to have my own differing opinion and am arguing it.

If it was unrelated to my response then carry on.
 

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I end up defending WWE in most of these cases, but Leo definitely has one thing right; People suddenly care when someone gets released, even if they didn't before.

Before it was, "OMG, Tyler Breeze was cut! NJPW should sign him!"
Now it's, "OMG, Zelina would be a great fit in AEW." (I'm not sure that she would.)
(These are also the people that say 'OMG TNA just signs everyone WWE cuts!' So, listening to them is grating enough.)

If it's over the Twitch stuff, I mean, more power to her if she's making enough money to basically give up her job for that. If it's over something else, well, good luck. I'm indifferent to the entire thing, though, because I have no desire to become a current day watcher more than random PPV that pops up every now and then.
 

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so they put the strap back on mcintyre. orton even gave him a pat on the ass during the 3 count. i guess this was just to give randall another reign. sufficiently intrigued for drew vs roman at least. and so much for the report that vince had soured on mcintyre eh?
 

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so they put the strap back on mcintyre. orton even gave him a pat on the ass during the 3 count. i guess this was just to give randall another reign. sufficiently intrigued for drew vs roman at least. and so much for the report that vince had soured on mcintyre eh?
plans may have changed
 

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I think they're setting up a Sheamus vs Drew feud.

Of course, there's always the chance Miz cashes in on Sunday after a Reigns win.
 

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i got to the gym late so i missed drews part of the promo but romans end was very good. probably a bit of a repeat in areas to the uso feud, but shit if we didn't find the personality that i believe in roman. drew needs the win more, but roman is the best thing in the company... finally... so i don't know which direction they go. id bet that drews next feud costs him the match i suppose.
 

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so the card for tomorrow is set (?)

roman reigns vs drew mcintyre
asuka vs sasha banks
bobby lashley vs sami zayn
new day vs street profits
aj styles, matt riddle, braun strowman, sheamus, and keith lee vs kevin owens, baron corbin, jey uso, otis, and seth rollins
nia jax, shayna baszler, lana, lacey evans, and peyton royce vs bianca belair, ruby riott, liv morgan, natalya, and bayley
pre-show battle royal

thats pretty rough. roman/drew is perfectly fine, i wish theyd have saved a match like that for a (the next, in fact) wrestlemania main event. but ok, at least its a match with two pros that we havent seen with this version of themselves. im sure asuka/sasha will be very good... again. but we've seen it, what, 3 times in the last couple months? but it was good every time, so at least its a match i can somewhat look forward to, because im sure itll be well worked.

and then... we're off the rails. actually, bobby and sami could probably be fun, with sami being the chickenshit heel that he is. but its probably a match i only care about because i like both these guys, and where they are currently. i dont care about new day/profits. i dont care about the womens 5 on 5, baszler or bayley are the only acceptable survivors there. and on star power, its really only bayley, but man theyve mangled their usage of baszler, so maybe they can give her a little momentum in a match that wont mean anything by the next night.

the mens 5 on 5. remember when seeing the teams in survivor series matches was actually pretty fun? now, it helped when they had 3 or 4 of these types of matches on the same show, and it would be cool to see how they mixed and matched. and sadly, i actually like some of these guys. i hate otis, and i dont care at all about corbin or braun but with a convincing push you might be able to get me back. though, probably not. owens is who he is, and i dont think he'll ever rise above this. jey usos superkicks are horrendous, and he throws 30 of them a match, but at least youve given me a reason to care a little bit over the last couple months. so for me... this is 4 on 1 to raw. and i dont watch raw at all, at least i catch the second hour of smackdown at the gym, so im sure i havent given myself a chance to be soured on riddle, lee and sheamus. wheres big e? wasnt he getting a push? is he hurt? this is the perfect dumb match, to have him go in, and either just be a wrecking ball, or have him go down 4 to 1, eliminate 3 of them by himself, and then aj wins with help from the bodyguard... or just outright win the goddamn thing coming back from 4-1. i dont know, i hate this match structure. i read they just randomly named otis as the 5th guy at some point last night, i missed it clearly, but have him get attacked backstage by tucker, and big e takes over and wins the whole goddamn thing. bleh.

tl;dr ill watch the dumb show but i only care about 2 or 3 of the matches. i only care about 1 of the matches really, but i dont hate the people in the other 2 and ill give them a fair shake.
 

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I...eeek, we'll see. I'll probably just ignore it since it's a big football day with the Vikings at 4 PM, and maybe watch Roman/Drew if the reviews come back strong. The other stuff? Meh.
 

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I’m only interested to see if there’s a title change tonight
 

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so war games is sunday...

dexter lumis vs cameron grimes
leon ruff vs johnny gargano vs damian priest for the na title
rhea, shirai, moon, and shotzi vs candice, dakota, gonzalez, and storm in womens war games
cole, o'reilly, fish, and roddy vs mcafee, lorcan, burch, and dunne in mens war games

and the clear main event... timothy thatcher vs tommaso ciampa

balor being injured hurts the depth of this card. a world title match on top of these matches, aside from grimes/lumis which feels like a regular wednesday match, would really strengthen this out. also that north american title match... ive seen gargano/priest enough, and leon ruff is 112 pounds tops. but at least its a title match i guess. where the hell is bronson reed and austin theory? small hopes that theory somehow helps mcafee win and joins that group, thats a logical fit. anyway... ill get around to watching it even if its not live, because thatcher is awesome and i like ciampa. and war games should lead to some dumb spots.
 
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